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Old 08-01-08, 06:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thinking of homeschooling
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A friend of mine's mother is starting her own charter school for homeschooling our in our area. She used to go to another that was quite a drive. From what I understand she runs the charter school which is paid for by the state as a sanctioned whatever and then there is a teacher who has credentials, another friend of ours in the mom's group, that oversees us parents. As in we teach the kids and then we have to turn grades or maybe even lessons into the teacher for official acceptance. The charter will have classes like music and reading where the kids will go and socialize with each other and learn in a group setting as well. All of this is free for us and we are given a monthly stipend of $75 per child for expenses such as materials and field trips or sporting team enrollment and such. My kids have done okay in public school and my oldest is going to middle school next month. The school offers a lot so I am pretty happy with her going there. (dance instead of standard phys ed, 6th grade transition with core classes with one teacher and then electives with the others, a performing arts academy of sorts in which she will be in drama that is very nice here-and open to school aged kids from 3rd grade on during the standard school year)
My second oldest will be going to 4th grade next year and with her she struggles in a few areas. She passed 3rd but needs help and they just don't have the time to address those areas. She also is the oldest kid in her class and feels "stupid" because of that. (Texas has a Sept cutoff-where she started school, her bday is in October and here in Calif. it's not until Dec)
My son will be going to preschool next month and I am happy about that. I want him to learn those basics in a social setting which he needs.
The school will take this school year getting approved, she just needs a certain number of signatures, and set up so she is starting it for the 09-10 school year. My son will be starting Kinder, my dd 5th and the other will be going into 7th so we will know if she is doing okay or will benefit better with the one on one learning.
My mother is so against this. She thinks that they need the socialization from the public school. They are involved in extracurricular activities and we are in a playgroup with all ages of kids we are constantly doing things with. She also thinks I am trying to keep them with me to fulfill my "emptiness" and that I need to send them to school so I can get a job and establish my own adult identity so when they move out I am not psychologically destroyed. As you can see that's kind of a big mtn to get over. We live right by my mom who is very active in our lives too Lol.
I am really loving this idea. When I told my dh he was for it and when I told him I get money to do with them what I already do he was really for it, lol. I always thought I wouldn't have the patience to teach my own kids (and my mom in the past had mentioned doing homeschooling lol) but now I totally can do it! I don't think it's much more than the Brownie troop I was a leader for. We are always doing educational things-museums, zoos, tv specials, tons of internet browsing. They love to learn and maybe if it was in a more one on one and relaxed environment they'd do a lot better. Not to mention the perfect attendance and no sick days lol. My soon to be 4th grader couldn't do multiplication and division and was getting really behind and the teacher didn't have the time to work with her. I taught her in 2 nights and she found it so much easier when I helped her. I also like that they won't have to learn in the school's method of teaching and instead can learn in their own way. One thing I loved about a previous public school is that they had a problem on the overhead and one student went up and solved it and then the teacher asked if anyone can do it differently and then that child went up and showed their way of doing it. This was a requirement every day in class. My kids did very well in that school. We moved back to Texas and back to teachers who didn't understand accountability too well and down went their grades again. So I guess I am just looking for your opinions on this, help in slowly convincing my mom how good this can be, help in convincing my daughter that this will be a fun thing (she always says no way and then later regrets it and then tries it and loves it so it's totally her way of things) and after seeing that thread regarding the article, what are my rights now in the state of California for trying this? How hard is it to do at the junior high level? And do they do the tests that the state has them do in school? The physical fitness and education ones?
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Old 08-01-08, 06:55 AM   #2
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Re: Thinking of homeschooling
Wow. I think if you want to do it, you should. I would be hesitant to do it myself b/c in this area, there's a consensus that if you're homeschooled then there is something wrong with you. Obviously, not true, but you know kids and they can be cruel.

You have a year until it's an option anyways so I'd just keep researching it, get opinions from people doing it, and talk to your kids about it. I personally would NOT have enjoyed homeschooling even though I didn't really like school myself. I don't think your mom's opinion should factor into this at all.

My one concern is how rocky your relationship w/Chris has been and getting a job (once Andrew is in school) would allow you to start bettering yourself in case he goes off the deep end you wouldn't be left with no options and starting from scratch.

If you choose not to homeschool, I still think it's a great idea to continue to help them outside of school as if you were. Give them exposure to the topics they'll be getting into and help them learn. Maybe if you work real hard w/your daughter next summer (fit a whole year in ) she can test out of her current grade and get into the next one.
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Old 08-01-08, 12:10 PM   #3
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Re: Thinking of homeschooling
They don't do that here. The testing for another grade. They just do the state tests at the end of the year and I still haven't received the results from that. I get what you're saying about Chris but having a parttime job won't make that much of a difference for me. I have 5 years until Andrew will be even going to school. At that point Amanda and Becah will be in high school, Thomas will be finishing elementary school so a couple of days a week of the charter classes I think are more than fine if I wanted to work out side of the home. My thing is why do I have them in school where they are supposed to be getting an education where Amanda is all about the social drama and not focusing on her work at all, Becah won't ask the teachers for help because she knows she can't get it and teach them most of the stuff at home? I think they have to get an education-not just a little help with their homework-from one or the other, not me teaching them half of their work or in helping with their homework seeing that they have no clue on half of it.
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Old 08-01-08, 01:34 PM   #4
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Well, I wish you the best of luck with whatever you decide. I think it would be easiest for Thomas to homeschool, you're probably going to get one hell of a fight from you girls who have already tasted the independence of real school.
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Re: Thinking of homeschooling
oh my Anubis, I prob shouldn't even reply. I see one of the same names that I dread... but I homeschooled for three yrs,so I wanted to chime in.

Now each state has there own rules and you def need to check out yours. you also should check out any local homeschool spport groups. even those can be nuts depending on the type you join and if its a good fit for you/your family. anyway.. there are a ton of paid for curriculums, or you can make your own.

the main thing,and the hardest, is working with a kid that isn't self-motivated...like my 14yr old. dep. on what grade your kid is and the school system, you can even have them go to pub school for part of the day. they call it duel-enrollment.

as long as you have other outlets...mommy groups, 4H, scouts, activities...I wouldnt worry about socialization..it'll happen.
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Ya since I have this next school year to get all of my info together and get with the lady who's starting it up and all I plan to see what it will be all about ahead of time, to make sure it will be a right choice, and see what, if at all, the state has to say about it.
One thing I am thinking here about Amanda and Becah is that since they have had a lot of social issues and pressures that we never dealt with in elementary school they are already hashing out and have been. Cliques, popularity, boys, the brand of clothes, their style, what organizations they do, who they talk to. Since 2nd grade! Every single year it's been the movie Mean Girls. THey have been to several schools in the last few years and Texas and Calif-both the same. I mean they even go so far as to call out a girl who isn't a girly girl or one who is not popular and close with a friend-lesbian. It's just disgusting how cruel kids are to one another. My girls come home and it's the same thing with each other. Then I hear about how they heard it from so and so and then I talk to the teachers and they confirm that this and that is going on. It's too much. So how are they supposed to be getting the education when all of this is going on every day? With Becah it's not so much of the your in/your out now fight for your spot back popular thing. It's more she has one or two friends and one is nice and one isn't and she acts back and forth and she is scared to death of bullies. She is embarassed and afraid of anything that will draw attention to her because she wants to stay so low key. I don't know if anything happened in the past other than the few incidents I knew about with some boys in like 2nd grade and then they weren't all that bad to her. So I was thinking that maybe just maybe homeschool them and then doing the drama, soccer, probably girl scouts again, and the mom's group might give them a "safer" environment. It won't matter if they are in pajamas doing their schoolwork or are having a bad day. Their's noone to compete with socially so they can have more fun with learning and their after school activities. If they can build up their minds and not worry about outside interference anymore and have mostly positive surroundings then I am hoping and thinking that this might be all of the ammunition they need to develop a high self esteem, self confidence, and a better moral compass. If they don't have others trying to influence them as much as they get in school, and instead have a family environment then when they get to high school and I will most likely have them all go to high school, I think they'll actually do better with their studies and make better choices for friends and not care so much what anyone else thinks. Right now is the age that is crucial for that. In the next year or so Amanda is going to decide who to be more loyal to: friends or mom. I need more in my corner. She's a great kid away from all of that drama. I was concerned that keeping them home would hinder their social development in a public school setting but the charter classes, and drama class at the school next door is really all she needs to keep up with those skills. At least I really hope. We'll see how next year goes. And the school I wanted them to go to for High School is actually a highly academic school. I didn't even know that until recently! How perfect is that.
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Glad that the H.S. sounds like it's goingto be a winner for you. How long are you hoping to h.s. for?
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Re: Thinking of homeschooling
I think keep them homeschooled until high school each one. So for Amanda that would be 2 years, Becah would be 4, then Thomas would be 9 and Andrew 9 as well. I want them, if possible, in a public preschool so start them off well with school manners and such and so they get the peer socialization established at a neutral and fun level. And it's not full time homeschooling because of the charter school. They will still go to classes and there will be full day classes available for sign up. So I'd intend to have them out of this house and in a classroom setting at least once a week. That is what is making my decision because it won't be the kids holed up at home all of the time.
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